How Much WON’T You Pay To Avoid Foreclosure?

 Bank of America short sales

The other day I had a seller refuse to contribute to the loss on her short sale.  Her home was $100,000 upside down, and she had been trying to short sale for two years.  She told me she absolutely did not want a foreclosure on her record. 

During negotiations with Bank of America, the mortgage insurance (MI) company requested the seller pay $3000 to offset some of the $100,000 loss.  When they pulled the seller's credit report, they saw she had taken out another loan after she initially defaulted on her mortgage.  This is what triggered the request for cash contribution .  This is not an uncommon request.

At first, the seller agreed to pay the $3000 to get her short sale approved.  All was well.

Or so I thought.  A day later, she changed her mind. You see, she had read up on the internet and knew better - she would not pay a dime and they should cover the whole loss.

I told her the short sale would be denied if she did not contribute the $3000.  This was about the third round of negotiations.  The investor and MI company had done their analysis, and without the contribution, they would simply foreclose.  This was not a bluff.

The choice was clear. Invest $3000 for a short sale or invest nothing and get a foreclosure.

If you're curious what a Bank of America denial letter looks like, here you go....

Bank of America short sale approval

* Situation altered to protect identities.

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Wendy Rulnick, Broker, Rulnick Realty, Inc.

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How Many BPOs Does It Take To Get The Short Sale Price Right?

Fort Walton Beach short sales  

The games we short sale agents must play!  Here is a perfect illustration about why short sale lenders should not rely on one value, called a Broker Price Opinion (BPO), to decide if an offer is the right price.

1.  I list a Fort Walton Beach Florida short sale at what I believe is close to market value-  $89,900.  I've been doing this for awhile, so my philosophy is to price where other comparable properties will support this value, using recent sales, competition, pendings and expireds. 

2.  I receive an offer in the $80,000s.  The seller and I discuss that this is likely in range of what the BPO agent will come up.  Seller accepts offer and I forward short sale package to Bank of America.

3. Bank of America orders their BPO.  I receive a counter offer, stating BPO value is $124,000.  Gee, I must have really missed pricing right here!  Off by 30%! Buyer walks.

4. I raise the price to $124,000.  Aahhhhh, only for a short time.  I know the BPO is only good in this case for 90 days (not a VA compromise sale).  Of course, no one looks at the house.  I slowly lower the price.

5.  90 days are up!  I reduce the price back down to what it originally was, actually a bit less, since our market has now dropped.

6.  PRESTO!  New offer in the $80,000s.

7.  I send the short sale package to Bank of America.  I pray they don't get the BPO value wrong again.

8.  We are in luck, the mighty BPO agrees with the contract price this time!  I am blessed! Short Sale approved in the $80,000s.

Meanwhile, Bank of America spent more on legal fees.  I spent more on marketing. And the seller hurtled four months closer to foreclosure.  Let the short sale games continue.

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Wendy Rulnick, Broker, Rulnick Realty, Inc.

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So, You Have A “Cash” Offer for My Short Sale Listing?

 Short Sale Negotiations

Being a short sale listing agent in Destin, Florida, each week I receive offers on my listings.  At least once a week, I hear the same thing from the buyer's agent:

I have a CASH buyer for your short sale listing! He can close immediately.”

OK, then what are you expecting from me?  And the short sale lender?  Do you realize that a CASH offer makes NO DIFFERENCE to the short sale lender?  Do you know where your offer goes? To the bottom on the pile.  (With the 20,000 other offers in queue.)  Bank of America does not put your offer in a special pile, marked “CASH- look at these first”.  Wells Fargo does not set aside all the other offers to look at the financing terms of yours.  Citi does not expedite your cash offer for approval.

What DO the short sale lenders care about?  They care about Line 504 of the HUD, "Payoff of First Mortgage".  That tells them what they are going to NET after their expenses.  It does not matter if the buyer wires the funds out of his own account (cash) or the buyer’s mortgage lender wires the funds to closing.  It all becomes CASH.

Negotiating Short Sales

Sure, if you were selling a traditional listing, that is not a short sale, "cash" might make a difference. A traditional seller might discount for the lower-risk buyer and quicker closing.  But a short sale listing is a loss to the lender.  They don't care how you get your money.  What they will want to see, in any case, is proof of funds or a mortgage pre-approval.

It may not be fair to the cash buyer to have to wait like the rest of the short sale offers, but it is reality.  So next time you tell me your offer is “CASH”, and I don’t get too excited, don't take it personally.

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Wendy Rulnick, Broker, Rulnick Realty, Inc.

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Short Sale Sellers - If You Want to Avoid Foreclosure - "You" Must Participate

Short sales

After this last week of trying to help short sale sellers unload their upside-down properties, I’ve experienced a whole range of assistance.  Or not.

1. Seller will not return four phone calls and two emails asking if they can do a $1000 cash contribution to dispose of a $150,000 mortgage.  Not even an acknowledgment.

2.  Seller will not upload info into Equator, after being under contract for four weeks

3.  Seller finally faxes listing agreement and short sale documents to us sent to him six weeks ago.

4.  Seller has not sent us the last two paystubs, after being under contract a month

5.  Seller contacts us with a foreclosure sale date in five weeks, has never even listed the house

6.  Seller, who is an attorney, finally faxes us listing paperwork one week before foreclosure.  Too late.

 

And it goes on.  In return, these sellers expect from their short sale listing agent:

1.       Sell their house—quick!

2.       Take care of all their lender requests

3.       Call their lender and stay on hold for hours a day, every day

4.       Repeatedly fax hundreds of documents on their behalf

5.       Keep the buyers waiting for six months

6.       Negotiate the best terms for a short sale approval

7.       Call and email them to continually ask for cooperation

 

Sellers – if you are serious about doing a short sale instead of a foreclosure, beShort sales prepared to do some work on your own behalf.  Your work will include gathering all requested financial documents in a timely manner.  (Timely manner means with a few days, not weeks. ) This will include gathering bank statements, pay stubs, profit and loss statements, tax returns and more.  This may also include filling out your specific bank’s forms.  You may have to do this multiple times. 

Consider paying $1000 or more on your own behalf to dispose of $100,000 or more debt.  Consider paying a promissory note of $5000 over several years at no interest, to do the same. Be honest.  Roll up your sleeves.  Return your real estate agent’s phone calls.  Participate.  Avoid foreclosure.  Get your short sale approved. 

It may not be convenient, but it’s your credit, and your financial future.  Take responsibility for it.

It's Wendy!

Wendy Rulnick, Broker, Rulnick Realty, Inc.

Call toll-free 1-877-ITS-WNDY (1-877-487-9639) or local 850-650-7883 ext 204

Email Wendy: itswendy@rulnickrealty.com

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Wendy is a short sale and pre-foreclosure specialist and has been featured in "Kiplinger Personal Finance Magazine" and "Florida Realtor Magazine". Call Wendy Rulnick, Broker/Owner,to list and sell your home or condo on the Emerald Coast of Florida in Walton, Okaloosa and Santa Rosa County-  Destin, Santa Rosa Beach, Fort Walton Beach, Niceville, Bluewater Bay, Navarre, Seagrove Beach, Watercolor, Sandestin, Seaside, Crestview, Rosemary Beach, Mary Esther, Shalimar, Eglin AFB, Hurlburt Field. 

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I’ll Take That Destin Short Sale for 20% Off!

 Destin short sales

$70,000 below asking price? 20% off? Those must be the magic numbers, because they are the types of offers I have been getting on some of my Destin Florida short sale listings.  For example and illustration, I have a Destin short home listed in at $420,000.  The two most recent comparable sales were $430,000 and $425,000.  The buyer’s agent presents me with an offer for $350,000. Hmmmm…  will the short sale lender accept $350,000?  I doubt it.

There are “magical” numbers floating around the internet that short sales sell for 82% of list price, or 80% of market value, or 85%.  You get the picture.  I can tell you right now- except for certain HUD and other short sales, there is no standard “percent off” that will guarantee you can buy that property for x amount off.  I can tell you this- what mostly works is…. drum roll…  market value (or pretty darn close!)

Remember, each short sale, whether it is serviced by Bank of America or Wells Fargo or Chase, likely has a different secondary market investor.  The secondary market investor, for example, Merrill Lynch, Bank of New York, etc., for the particular mortgage loan,  will have different criteria for what it desires to agree to a short sale.  There is no “one size fits all”.Destin short sales

Don’t forget to take into account that the investor does not just look at the contract price.  They look at what they will net at closing.  So after paying some closing costs, such as real estate commission, state conveyance tax, doc stamps on deed, tax prorations and past due homeowners association dues, the investor might only net $300,000 on that $350,000 offer.  Are you getting the picture?  In addition, if they do use a standard “percent off” calculation for certain short sales, they are not going to use the list price.  They are going to use their independent appraised value- which might be higher than the list price.

So if you are going to offer an amount substantially lower than market value for a short sale, be prepared.  You’re either going to end up paying closer to market value or you're not going to get the home.

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Wendy Rulnick, Broker, CRP, CRS, GRI, ABR     Rulnick Realty, Inc.

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"Can I Put That Condo On Layaway?"

short sale negotiations

 

  

 

I have been negotiating a short sale offer for a Destin Florida condo for about a week.  Today I received the following email from the buyer's agent:

"Here is my buyer’s final offer for the condo.

 

Purchase Price - $150,000

 

$50,000 at closing, $50,000 in 12 months and the other $50,000 in 24 months.

 

Seller to pay all closing costs 

 

Seller to pay 6 months of condo dues

 

He would like an answer by 2pm on Monday."

Enough said.

 

 

 

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Wendy Rulnick, Broker, CRP, CRS, GRI, ABR     Rulnick Realty, Inc.

Destin FL Real Estate

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Wendy is a short sale and pre-foreclosure specialist and has been featured in "Kiplinger Personal Finance Magazine" and "Florida Realtor Magazine". Call Wendy Rulnick, Broker/Owner,to list and sell your home or condo on the Emerald Coast of Florida in Walton, Okaloosa and Santa Rosa County-  Destin, Santa Rosa Beach, Fort Walton Beach, Niceville, Bluewater Bay, Navarre, Seagrove Beach, Watercolor, Sandestin, Seaside, Crestview, Rosemary Beach, Mary Esther, Shalimar, Eglin AFB, Hurlburt Field. 

 

Are Short Sale Lenders More Lenient the Second Time Around?

                                                                                                                            

Destin short sales 

It was almost a year ago that Bank of America approved a short sale on one of my Destin Florida condo listings.  The sale price at the time was $260,000. The sellers owed $410,000 on the unit.  Bank of America approved the short sale requiring the sellers do a cash contribution of $16,000 towards the loss at closing.  Why? Because the sellers were paying two other mortgages on time and they had jobs and regular income.  

Unfortunately, the property did not close. The buyer defaulted after approval because he wanted to buy another condo. 

Six months later I found a new buyer.  The Destin condo market had declined further, so the sale price was  much lower.  Five months later still, I got the short sale approved by Bank of America.  Although little has changed with the seller's circumstances, the investors on this loan were much more lenient the second time around.

Property:  Destin Florida condo

Ownership type:  Investment

Sale Price:  $211,000  (one year ago- approved price was $260,000)

Mortgage Balance:  $410,000

Cash from seller: -0- (one year ago- $16,000 cash contribution was required)

Promissory note from seller: -0-

Needless to say, the sellers are delighted.  The question remains, though, why were the investors more lenient with short sale approval terms the second time around?  Not only did they accept $50,000 less – they required no cash contribution from the seller.  This may mean investors are loosening up their approval guidelines in general, cutting their losses and moving forward.  It may be good news for homeowners in trouble who are considering a short sale.

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Wendy Rulnick, Broker, CRP, CRS, GRI, ABR     Rulnick Realty, Inc.

Destin FL Real Estate

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Wendy is a short sale and pre-foreclosure specialist and has been featured in "Kiplinger Personal Finance Magazine" and "Florida Realtor Magazine". Call Wendy Rulnick, Broker/Owner,to list and sell your home or condo on the Emerald Coast of Florida in Walton, Okaloosa and Santa Rosa County-  Destin, Santa Rosa Beach, Fort Walton Beach, Niceville, Bluewater Bay, Navarre, Seagrove Beach, Watercolor, Sandestin, Seaside, Crestview, Rosemary Beach, Mary Esther, Shalimar, Eglin AFB, Hurlburt Field. 

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Report: Short Sales and Your Credit Score

Short Sales Credit score

 

 

Curious what will happen to your credit score after a short sale?

 

The answer is… it depends.  How many mortgage payments did you miss?  How much debt do you have?  What is your outstanding balance to available credit ratio?  What is your overall payment history?  Your “point” impact will be calculated by FICO based on these and several other criteria.  Here is an actual example of how a short sale affected my Destin short sale seller’s credit score.

 

Property:  Destin short sale condo – investment property (not owner occupied)

 

Lender:  Aurora Loan Services

 

Number of Missed Mortgage Payments:  23

 

Short Sale Reporting:  “Settled for Less Than Full Amount”

 

Previous Credit Score: 745

 

“During Short Sale” Credit Score:  646

 

Credit Score 30 Days After Short Sale: 732 687 and 679 (from the three credit bureaus, Equifax, Transunion and Experian)

 

My Destin short sale seller was amazed that his credit score seemed to shoot right up after his short sale was complete.  This is not always the case. The bottom line is – you won’t know how your score will change until you complete your short sale.  But don’t be dismayed, you CAN start to rebuild your credit immediately.  And don't be suprised if your financial future is brighter than you think.

 

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Wendy Rulnick, Broker, CRP, CRS, GRI, ABR     Rulnick Realty, Inc.

Destin FL Real Estate

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www.ShortSaleSuperStars.com ***Weekend update

If you have not joined yet - now is the time.  www.ShortSaleSuperstars.com

 

Via Bryant Tutas-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc:

http://shortsalesuperstars.com

Hello fellow Superstars,

OK..... so what's been going on at www.ShortSaleSuperStars.com this week? How about....71 new members! Welcome to all. Please be sure to take a minute and place your information and location on the "Referral Map"  You want to make sure people can find you if they are looking for a Short Sale Agent in their area.

Last week we had 2,768 UNIQUE visitors with 58% of them coming from Trafiice chart the search engines. www.ShortSaleSuperStars.com is being found by sellers, buyers and professionals throughout the country.

With this in mind, make sure your profile page is as complete as possible. Check out my page and Wendy's page for good examples.  

Are you following the conversations?

  • The Equator system is the hot topic this week. Frustrations are mounting.

In the next few days we will be breaking the 1,000 members mark. This site is growing fast and Wendy and I need help. We are looking for a web site designer, a marketer and anybody else that may have some good ideas to help us grow. If you want to help....let us know.

And.....we are ready to start getting some National press. Please be sure to mention www.ShortSaleSuperStars.com to everyone you speak with. Let's get a buzz going. After all WE (all of us) are the ones that are making a difference in this market and the public needs to know that. They need to see what we have going on over here. So shout it out loud!

Finally, we do offer Short Sale Agent Training for those that need it. At $97 for almost 9 hours of training it's a steal. Check it out. We'd love to have you.

Until next time......LEARN, KNOW AND GROW.

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Bank of America & Equator: Are We Guinea Pigs on a Treadmill?

 

Bank of America short sales

If you haven’t heard recently, Bank of America short sales are getting even… well, weirder.  Their new plan is to implement an online system where real estate agents and borrowers can upload their own short sale information.  It sounds great-- and it would be--if it worked.  OK, you might have heard one or two success stories, but I can tell you from practical experience, until this system is refined your Bank of America short sales might take… longer! 

The new system is called Equator, formally REOTrans.  It is really a jerry-rigged uploading site that is also used for foreclosure (REO) offers to Bank of America. Here is my experience with it so far.

Day 1:  I fax in my package to Bank of America for a new Destin short sale

Day 7:  I call in to confirm the fax was received, as it takes Bank of America several days to recognize new faxes.  No, and they cannot find my loan number.  There is no such loan number!  Huh?  I call my seller.  She says the loan number was changed in the past week.

Day 10:  After faxing in a new authorization, I call Bank of America (BOFA) back with the new loan number.  They said they changed the loan number because this file is going to their new online system, Equator.  They instruct me to upload my short sale package online.  My seller must also call in to get her own special password to use the system and upload her own financial documents.

Day 11:  My seller calls BOFA during the day from work.  She is on hold over one hour and transferred twice.  During her hold time, she emails me “Still on hold, but they ‘look forward to talking’ with me soon’”.  After she completes her call she tells me “I cannot believe this is what you deal with all day”.  She forwards me her password so I may upload all her documents for her.  This means, all the tax returns, bank statements, financial worksheet, paystubs, etc.  Each document must be scanned into our computer system as a separate file so we can upload them when asked.

Day 12:  We try to access Equator with my seller’s password.  Login fails.  No luck.  

Day 13: We log in under my agent id.  Here we upload our authorization and answer questions about the offer.  Non-invasive questions like, “What is the buyer’s birth date?  What are the first five digits of the buyer’s social security?” 

FINALLY, we get to the offer amount.  Let’s use $160,000 as an example.  OFFER REJECTED – insufficient.  HUH?  The last sale in this Destin condo complex was $150,000.  So, why is our $160,000 offer insufficient?  Who can I talk to?  The machine?  I call Bank of America and they repeat, the system says “insufficient”, didn’t I get a rejection email?  “From generic.negotiator@bankofamerica.com”, I told  them.  Well, that is who you should email, I am told by the BOFA rep.  "You are kidding, I am to email the “generic” negotiator?"  The rep says, "Yes, that email is checked by different negotiators all day".  OK, who am I to question the authority of Bank of America?  I email generic.negotiator@bankofamerica.com (like an idiot) and of course the email address is invalid.

Day 14: Today.  Plan B.  I’ll let you know how it goes.  And I wish you better luck with Equator.

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Wendy Rulnick, Broker, CRP, CRS, GRI, ABR     Rulnick Realty, Inc.

Destin FL Real Estate

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